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okay, I'm gonna crosspost this, I hope that's kosher...
what I am trying to figure out is how to do that psychedelic looking screenprint where one color fades into another in a series of colors... here's a really bad example of what I'm talking about because I couldn't find a picture of what I'm really going for:
www.urbanoutfitters.com/shoppi...ain.jsp
bad because they only fade at the top and there are only two colors (and I don't like the design :) but you get the picture... I am trying to figure out how the heck you do this because it's not an abrupt change in color that you would get from blocking different parts of the screen (or making multiple screens)... my girlfriend fell in love with a sweatshirt that is no longer available so I want to make a cooler, more personalized one for her with the same effect, as her birthday is the 20th. I am using your basic speedball kit and understand the basics, color seperation and all that and feel pretty confident and proud of the stuff I've already done but I can't for the life of me in my head figure out how you would get that multiple color fade... I have plenty of blank screens to burn and ink.
actually here are a few more examples of kinda what I'm talking about:
www.karmaloop.com/products.asp
www.karmaloop.com/products.asp
www.karmaloop.com/products.asp
(the last two are probably the closest to what I'm going for)
any ideas?
what I am trying to figure out is how to do that psychedelic looking screenprint where one color fades into another in a series of colors... here's a really bad example of what I'm talking about because I couldn't find a picture of what I'm really going for:
www.urbanoutfitters.com/shoppi...ain.jsp
bad because they only fade at the top and there are only two colors (and I don't like the design :) but you get the picture... I am trying to figure out how the heck you do this because it's not an abrupt change in color that you would get from blocking different parts of the screen (or making multiple screens)... my girlfriend fell in love with a sweatshirt that is no longer available so I want to make a cooler, more personalized one for her with the same effect, as her birthday is the 20th. I am using your basic speedball kit and understand the basics, color seperation and all that and feel pretty confident and proud of the stuff I've already done but I can't for the life of me in my head figure out how you would get that multiple color fade... I have plenty of blank screens to burn and ink.
actually here are a few more examples of kinda what I'm talking about:
www.karmaloop.com/products.asp
www.karmaloop.com/products.asp
www.karmaloop.com/products.asp
(the last two are probably the closest to what I'm going for)
any ideas?
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Re: Psychedelic Fades
Wed, May 9, 2007 - 2:05 PMhmmm....I feel like experimenting on how to do this myself when i get a chance, but I would maybe try placing the different colored ink on different parts of the screen and using small seperate squeegees (for the different colors)....stiff cardboard would work for this...so that the colors don't all get mixed together..I have not tried this, but it is how I would do it were I going to attempt it.
I am supposed to do a run of shirts tonight..maybe I will give it a whirl and post my results -
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Re: Psychedelic Fades
Wed, May 9, 2007 - 2:22 PMthat would be awesome, certainly report back if you meet with success, thanks! :)
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Re: Psychedelic Fades
Wed, May 9, 2007 - 3:58 PMThe first three you listed appear to be color blends, where you simply deposit 2 or more colors on your screen in stripes. After a few passes on some test stock, it mixes into a very even blend between them:
Boxfresh appears to be 2 inks, screened sideways, Yellow and Orange
The Clown appears to be 4 (maybe 5) inks, Purple (and maybe Blue on the WAY far left, almost out of view), Red, Yellow and Blue
The Harajuku Lovers Shirt looks like 3 inks, Green, Yellow and a Rhodamine/Magenta
Now, the last one I don't think is possible in the same way. What it appears to be is two images superimposed (the Girl over a Rorshack Ink Blot), which was then separated into a four color process (i.e. the halftone dots are doing the visual mixing, as opposed to the inks actually co-mingling).
I'd done a piece with a simliar look once, but it was process color fades over succesive layers of acetate. Since the process colors are transparent in nature, it allowed the layers to "blend" in the final, but that was certainly an oddball substrate (acetate) that defied the laws of the standard piece (opaque)... :)
When you design your work, also remember that you can fool the viewer in how you do something by thinking in layers. There's an old Skateboard deck from the 80's whose Printers start going nuts with the variations.
There are at least three stencils at work for the background elements, each one was done as a color blend, but since the left edge of every layer was almost the same blueish purpleish color, it really makes you think "How in the hell did they do that?"
i122.photobucket.com/albums/...gonz.jpg
There's a Purple to Pink, a Blue to Yellow, and a Blue to Orange at work here.
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Re: Psychedelic Fades
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Re: Psychedelic Fades
Fri, May 18, 2007 - 2:45 PMI've been experimenting with mixed results before I do the final process, it's on black so I gotta do an opaque white substrate first... using versatex - that stuff is really goopy! this is the first black background process I've done as well, I looked through the archives and saw some stuff, but does anyone have any tips on that? I realized my emulsion was expired so I hadda go get more sensitizer and have just been experimenting with stencils for the time being (probably will emulse the screens today) but I'm really not used to the goopiness of the opaque white - will diluting it with water screw up it's use as a substrate? it was so chunky that on the stencil it got really uneven... any tips from folks? is it going to react differently through a sceen?
also, I've ben researching split-fountain (the fade) and it's almost always horizontal pulls (like in the link)... does anyone know if this can be done just straight vertically? I have a very long and skinny graphic that I need to do the split fountain on, and vertical passes on stencils didn't work out so well (but then, it may be the opaque substrate?)... I'm also going to be doing some stencil highlights around the garment so I'm curious if anyone has tips for opaque white application on a stencil - a flood pull was like I said, pretty chunky - any alternative methods of application, like sponge brushes, etc or should I just play around with squeegees til I get it right? -
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Re: Psychedelic Fades
Fri, May 18, 2007 - 3:47 PMYes, it can be done vertically, and I was actually amused by the sideways pull, as I would've just rotated the screen in the clamps... :)
I think it may be more to do with the concept of the printing platen, a uniquely T-Shirt oriented concept. Poster printing is done on a table (turn the screen however you like, thank you very much... :) whereas T-Shirt printing presses have the 12" X 18" little ironing board that you use to insure you only print one layer, and that it's flat
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